{"id":299927,"date":"1967-01-01T00:01:37","date_gmt":"1966-12-31T23:01:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.vanoorschot.nl\/dbnl\/vier-gesprekkenrutger-kopland\/"},"modified":"2021-06-04T12:37:35","modified_gmt":"2021-06-04T11:37:35","slug":"vier-gesprekkenrutger-kopland","status":"publish","type":"dbnl","link":"https:\/\/www.vanoorschot.nl\/en\/dbnl\/vier-gesprekkenrutger-kopland\/","title":{"rendered":"Vier gesprekken\r\n\r\nRutger Kopland"},"content":{"rendered":"
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Vier gesprekken\r\n
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I Over de geheimen van het leven<\/h4>\r\n\r\n
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Jij hebt natuurlijk ook je geheimen<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n\r\n
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zei hij. Wat kon ik zeggen, ieder<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n\r\n
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antwoord was waar en onwaar.<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n\r\n
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Ik had toch net geprobeerd geheimen<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n\r\n
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met hem te delen. Wat ik niet kon<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n\r\n
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zeggen was voelbaar.<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n\r\n
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Laten we het, om dichtbij te blijven<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n\r\n
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vergelijken met het gesprek in onze<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n\r\n
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boomgaard tussen twee lege ligstoelen.<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n\r\n<\/div>\r\n\r\n
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II Over de zinloosheid van het leven<\/h4>\r\n\r\n
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Vind je het leven niet zinloos<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n\r\n
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zei hij. Het grint knarste onder<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n\r\n
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onze voeten. In plaats dat hij<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n\r\n
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blij was, je kon zien dat de winter<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n\r\n
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verging. Hoe bedoel je zei ik.<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n\r\n
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Hij bedoelde zinloos.<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n\r\n
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De zon scheen en de spiegel<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n\r\n
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gladde vijver lag alweer te stinken<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n\r\n
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van smerig leven in beweging.<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n\r\n
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Waarom bedroefd zijn of boos<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n\r\n
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als je niet wordt begrepen,<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n\r\n
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ik kon hem immers ook niet volgen.<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n\r\n<\/div>\r\n\r\n\r\n
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III Over de eindigheid van het leven<\/h4>\r\n\r\n
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Maar natuurlijk kwam ik ook weer<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n\r\n
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zo’n vriend tegen die er eens zeer<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n\r\n
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diep doorheen wilde gaan, spitsuur<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n\r\n
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op een terras midden in de stad,<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n\r\n
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prachtig weer, er was nog veel aan<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n\r\n
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te doen op mijn leeftijd als je dat<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n\r\n
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zo zag. Straks zal ik er niet meer<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n\r\n
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zijn dacht ik, over veel hebben gepraat,<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n\r\n
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weinig hebben gezien, geproefd, gedaan.<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n\r\n
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Ik zweeg daarover.<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n\r\n<\/div>\r\n\r\n\r\n
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IV Er blijft over te praten<\/h4>\r\n\r\n
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Terwijl hij in zijn sigaar hapte<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n\r\n
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zat ik te spelen met zijn woorden:<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n\r\n
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dichtregels worden de dichter gegeven.<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n\r\n
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Dat heb ik nooit geweten, wel dat soms<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n\r\n
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een vreemd soort ontroering opkomt<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n\r\n
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waarvoor ik naar woorden zoek.<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n\r\n
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Zo draag ik al weken het beeld<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n\r\n
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in mij om van B, haar ernstig gezicht<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n\r\n
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in de capuchon, de boterham in de tas,<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n\r\n
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op weg naar de eerste klas.<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n\r\n
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Geen woord werd mij gegeven, integendeel.<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n\r\n
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Ieder woord geef ik voor een beter.<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n\r\n<\/div>\r\n\r\n<\/div>
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Over dit hoofdstuk\/artikel<\/h3>\n

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