{"id":300659,"date":"1975-01-01T00:01:07","date_gmt":"1974-12-31T23:01:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.vanoorschot.nl\/dbnl\/k-schipperszeven-gedichten\/"},"modified":"2021-06-04T14:13:34","modified_gmt":"2021-06-04T13:13:34","slug":"k-schipperszeven-gedichten","status":"publish","type":"dbnl","link":"https:\/\/www.vanoorschot.nl\/en\/dbnl\/k-schipperszeven-gedichten\/","title":{"rendered":"K. Schippers\r\n\r\nZeven gedichten"},"content":{"rendered":"
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Projectie van een letter:<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n\r\n
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Projectie wordt versneld<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n\r\n
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Zo is de taal ruimte en kleur en tijd<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n<\/div>\r\n\r\n
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Over dit hoofdstuk\/artikel<\/h3>\n

K. Schippers<\/a><\/p>\n
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